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@XDC_Wolf wrote:
On the topic of overclocking i may clock my Athlon x2 4200 to see what it can do. i have decent cooling on that so should be ok. (currently temps dont go above 55ish).
I’d be careful, I am overclocking mine now (out of necessity more than anything else) and have temperatures of about 30 – 40, maxing out at about 46. Anything above this and it starts to become unstable. I am fairly sure it’s not the chip as the last chip I O/ced did the same.
Is that on the same processor as mine?
FWIW.. i had an XP3000+ (single core) in my media pc, vista was hammering the processor and causing it to run at 100%.. anyway long story short.. i had turned off the bios’s thermal protection because the pc was crashing (i.e. saving the cpu) so the temp was hitting 120 degrees, at which point the cpu its self shutdown to save its self.. i guess my point is that while its probably not a good idea to go anywhere near 100degrees… it seems the processor can take a bit of abuse. 😈 👿 .. i now have a 4200+ X2 in the media pc now as well.. (i think the high temps may have been a compatibility issue between the mobo bios and the 3000+ processor)…
anyhoo.. im reading up on exactly what knobs to tweak to oc. since im not a hardened o/c er.@Lammie wrote:
@=XDC=iNSANE wrote:
Either 2 much money and no sense or you just didnt read Judges post 🙂
£354 for an extra 6FPS.. bargain 😆
The orginal question that seemed to be lost was; ‘I thinking of getting a HD2600Pro will I be able to run Crysis on this card?’
Which feedback has been provided from real time experiences 😉 Whilst this card may run Crysis you would probably have to compomise some of the eye candy to make it semi playable.
I agree that the differences between the HD 2900 XT are negligable when you compare the price differentials of roughly £250 for the ATI vs £450 for the Nvidia 8800 Ultra. The 8800 GTX can be clocked easily to match the Ultra perfomance. So £200 for a 6fps increase doesn’t really justify the additional outlay.
However, there are distinct differences ( and I wont go into them here unless some specifically asks for it to avoid the inevitable ‘Geek ‘ references that are bound to be posted.)to the GPU and Rendering Architechture which when you compare the Nvidia across multiple games/apps then it is a more capable card.
It all comes down to personal preference and budget. You can easily cherry pick a particular result from a specific test to highlight the benefits for each vendor. It’s the overall scores across a suite of tests that are more respresentative of ‘overall’ performance but again you can skew these either way if your trying to validate a particular point.
Anyhoo, it’s the same old debate as the ‘Intel vs AMD’ and at the end of the day you go with what gives you the best performance to match your budget.
thanks for that… yeah ive had a look at some of the differences.. opengl V directx performance etc etc…
I think the 2600 will be bettern than my 7900gt, but a 2900pro will last a little longer and hopefully give better value.. so if i do upgrade thats what itll be. The 2900XT is outta my price range, but the pro can be o/c’d if required.
On the topic of overclocking i may clock my Athlon x2 4200 to see what it can do. i have decent cooling on that so should be ok. (currently temps dont go above 55ish).
ta all.. now looking forward to getting the crysis demo.. hopefully itll be out at a decent time..
the other thing is…. noise.. are there truly silent versions of these cards available? or is passive cooling silly talk when discussing these beasts? (leaning towards the 2900pro now…)
@=XDC=iNSANE wrote:
yeah played Halo2 and Halo 3.. both are toss 🙂
BF1942, BFV, BF2, Turok, SOF, Stranglehold, Max Payne, FH, CS, DOD, COD3, Red Orchestra.. nuff said mate regarding realism.. there where its at and always will be
I dont doubt Crysis will be good, I was gonna upgrade for that game alone.. the beginning levels look amazing.. but.. it got all ghey with the aliens and what not.. lazers dont do it for me .. unless in films.. in films they rock 🙂
but this will be like a film.. only youll get to direct.. and shoot the actors you dont get along with!! 😆
ta Judge…
i rekon the XT is way outta my budget for the time being…
but the “Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro SILENT Heatpipe 512MB GDDR3”
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-160-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=922might not be.. and if you believe the reviewers posts it can be oc’d to perform like the XT.
I read a review of some of the budget cards (~£60) and theat mentioned that more ram seemed to be better than faster ram. These 2900’s seem to have 512mb ddr3 (so its more AND faster) which cant be bad.
Course.. you fall into the trap of… “if i spend just a little more….”
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-159-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=922
…. i get 1024mb DDR4!! whoot hooooottt… 😈 😈Insane… didnt you play Halo2?? killing aliens is the only way to fly!!
i mean.. reality is overrated. and the level editor that comes with it will be fookin nice too.. have you seen any of the vids that tell you about the technology and sheite.. (ok its all hype.. but nothing compared to they hype generated by xbox game launches)err.. ok..
The rest of my system is…
Athlon XP 64bit X2 4200+
2gb DDR RAM (nothing stunning, probably all corsair value select, in dual channel)
errr.. HDD is nothing special. certainly not solid state or a raptor!! 😆… oh dear.. im gonna have to fork out on new kit already!! DOH!!
maybe ill just stick with what ive got for now as going for say faster ram would mean a new mobo (for ddr2 ram) and new processor..
Having said that an 8800GTS on OC is £180, so its not all THAT bad..
whats the current thinking on whether pci-e will remain the standard for graphics cards?… i.e. if i go the whole hog on a graphics card now (intending to upgrade the rest later) will the standard have changed by the time i get round to it?
(what am i talking about.. of course it will!!)cheers.
Chaos.@=XDC=iNSANE wrote:
thats brilliantly done.. i’d like to see the twins naked to see if they are identical though
what the hell was that, that first walked in bytheway.. couldnt make it out
insane.. youre one perverted bastard.. but yeah, id like to too 😉
@sickofitall wrote:
The previous CoD games all scaled to to lower specs pretty well so hopefully this one will look alright anyway.
Will it be as good as CoD2 though? Not likely – CoD2 had the desert rats shouting “Got the bloody wanker!” whenever they shot someone, which made it good regardless.
lol.. well we can do that, if thats all its gonna take to make u happy!! 🙂
@=XDC=iNSANE wrote:
Come on the Demo!!
*rubs hands*
Game PC requirements here
http://forumplanet.gamespy.com/in_the_news/b49204/10856419/p1/
“Wooooah.. I’m half way there, WOOOAH’O running single layer!!” (Core didnt rhyme)
so it takes advantage of dual core huh?? cool bananas.
edit:: and besides.. itll be in yanky doodle time, so we wont see the demo till 4pm at least 😡
@=XDC=MADMAX wrote:
hohohohehehe – some top games! Improves your game play.
👿 😈 😡 😥 😥
@=XDC=iNSANE wrote:
Would you want to see any other server?
i guess not.
had a blast on the server last night.. (MORE CHARACTER BUILDING!!!)..
@Ryzo wrote:
im talking 2142, only way to go
ahh course!.. yeah ill be on tonite!
9ish till 10:30 ish prolly.i played a bit of bf2 last night on my vista media centre machine.. was a bit jerky coz it aint really built for that.. but seeing the ole maps and stuff made me grin.
@Ryzo wrote:
@Cha0sEngine wrote:
well that would make the thing a whole lot more useable… anyway.. im not speaking to you.. i got totally butt fu*ked on the server the other night.. me and 2 tards versus you max and someone else.. pod i think.
😆 its a bit annoying when you’ve got a team of snipers who do nothing, etc, you on for a game tonight?
wasnt on last night, but will be tonight. as im working from home tomorrow. so can use the commute time for extra sleep!! 🙂
EDIT!! hang on.. we talking bf2? or 2142?!? oo err.. getting confused now!! 😕
