RPG on infantry

I disagree, a weapon is a weapon. The RPG moves really slow, and unlike a round from a smg it can be avoided, plus the RPG has a long reload time, limited ammo capacity. Easy solution? Stab the fucker. But on a similar vein, this goes back to my argument last night that the server is there to let the members of XDC have a place to game by our preferred method, and as such, the Admins should not have any doubts about kicking people for any reason. It’s a public server, but not a public service. If the Admins don’t like the use of RPG’s and its spoiling the game, Kick.

COI? not sure on that abbreviation!

I have a very firm stance on this, rpg on infantry is fine, as gay as the noob tube for cheap kills but it IS part of the game mechanics and as Doc says, the rules will be inconsistent. Ultimately it will be down to whoever is admining but what we do want is fairness in the admining and a case by case approach.

For example spawn raping has been massively reduced in this version of battlefield, gone are the days of people standing next to your spawn and killing you as you spawn (although it is legitimate to do this anywhere outside the uncap, there are normally a few places to spawn as you can spawn on your team mates). However there are times when it is impossible to spawn anywhere because of the spawn raping. Last night was a good example on Cao San temple (conquest). It was decided to kick those players that were doing it and we did. I informed the server that I had kicked two people for base raping and the problem went away (kind off). Later on though on a rush map we got grief from someone for spawn raping. As far as I am concerned there is no possible way to defend and win without spawn raping, likewise there really is no way to win attacking without spawn raping, that is the nature of rush, it puts the two teams very close to each other and the defenders spawn practically on the objectives.

Here is the problem though, everyone admins to their own standards and these are always going to be inconsistent, as a rule I will ask on TS and discuss with whoever is on as to whether there is reason to kick (kicking is what I usually do, not banning, more of that later) and follow the advice of others, but I normally warn privately by yelling directly at people through RCON and watch them for a bit (even Doc occasionally agrees with me about kicking people). The sever is ours but it is nothing without other players on, we could never fill the server if it was private!

We want the server to be a good place to play, with good players, it’s the only way we improve by watching what the rank 50’s do and working out ways to beat them (Antananarivo for example), we don’t get a decent reputation for being someone who kicks for the slightest of reasons, and especially not for someone who is just bloody good at the game and is kicking your ass. Just because we rent the server out does not mean we have to be the best players on the server. Some of the best games have been as a result of fighting back from an almost unwinnable situation against really good guys, what we should be doing is getting into squads and using teamwork to overcome the obstacles, be that someone going sniper for a wee while to clear the entrenched positions, having a medic doing his job and talking clearly about positions (not any of this “on the hill adjacent to B” when there are TWO hills adjacent to B, one north/ north east, the other west).

We also want the teams to be balanced so if there are three rank 50’s on one side, move one to the other team using RCON, although I did that last night and it didn’t really work because the other rank 50 left and we had two rank 50’s against us on Cao San who did the spawn raping! /there is more to say on the admining side of things, but I want to keep the rest private so I am going to do a post in the Admin section later this afternoon.

Cool about the tanks that spawn being able to take ’em.

I think we’re all pretty much in agreement here, like Doc said the more rules the more of a pain it can be. I certainly agree with Maniac that for me the real enjoyment is when everyone’s on TS. I’ll not bother jumping on the game if people aren’t in TS because it loses so much. It’s why for the first time in forever I’ve actually been know to tell my xbox leave mates I can’t play FIFA just yet as I’m on Battlefield!

That one map on which they were kicking our ass…that’s the only thing I’m not sure about really. I mean fair play they did such a great job of pushing us back the choice then becomes spawn-die straight away, or don’t spawn till the tickets go down. I think on Rush or Conquest firing into uncap is still a no-no, more so on Conquest.

Glad you all pretty much agree with the RPG stuff. First chopper I shot down last night was well chuffed.

note road seperating hill B from the base at B, if anything, contrary to Doc’s assertions, this is less within the definition of adjacent than Hill A but they are still both adjacent to B.