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..However, don’t be swayed by people’s victim mentality, especially when so many of these stop and search ‘victims’ supported the tube bombings in this country. If they disagree with the terrorists so much, then why aren’t they making their voices heard in protests about it? They were happy to protest about dodgy cartoons, but when it comes to mass murdering suicide bombers it all goes a bit quiet.
I wont be swayed by victim mentality if you promise not to believe everything you read in the papers… media hype can turn any story back on to itself… good news doesnt sell so well, so the papers are more likly to print stories regarding the more fundamental muslims… I would be extremely surprised if the majority of “stop and search” victims of the muslim community supported the bombings.
The bottom line is: In my honest opinion, the discrimination of Muslims (or any minority group) in any shape or form can be a driving force towards extremism – thus exagerating the problem. I firmly believe this, so therefor believe that targetting your muslims/asians over everyone else is highy counter productive. Like most things, I believe that people do things for a reason… and feel that if the base of the problem is solved, the whole problem will reduce…
innit 🙂
Peace out
The bottom line is: In my honest opinion, the discrimination of Muslims (or any minority group) in any shape or form can be a driving force towards extremism – thus exagerating the problem. I firmly believe this, so therefor believe that targetting your muslims/asians over everyone else is highy counter productive. Like most things, I believe that people do things for a reason… and feel that if the base of the problem is solved, the whole problem will reduce…
Why should young muslims become radicals because of the increase in security?
If some kid in my class at school acted like a knob and as a result the whole class ended up staying in a lunch time doing lines, did we all start acting like him by the end of term? Did we turn around and blame the teacher for the unfair punishment? No. The kid got shunned for acting like a ‘tard. Had he continued we would have had nothing to do with him and probably grassed him up next time he decided to act like a spaz.
So why are Muslim youths siding with the fanatics? Why are they listening to the fanatics in the first place? Using the excuse that they were driven to terrorism because of an unfair system designed to stop terrorists in their midst is simply an excuse. It’s like the boys who tortured and killed Jamie Bulger trying to blame what they did on watching the horror film ‘Child’s Play’.
Solving the problems that turn people into terrorists, murderers, rapists and whatever things that our society is against is fine, but there comes a point at which you come to an impasse, when an unstoppable force meets an unmoveable object.
And as Abraham Lincoln said: “You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.”
@=XDC=NeonSamurai wrote:
If some kid in my class at school acted like a knob and as a result the whole class ended up staying in a lunch time doing lines, did we all start acting like him by the end of term?
Funny thing is, Ive always thought you acted a bit like a knob… go figure 😉
By no means am I saying that the searching of young muslims turns them in to suicide bombers. What I am trying to say is that a build up of disciminatory factors over time, aimed at a specific group, can cause a disgruntled community. Whilst you did not turn in to a knob at school, if you had carried on being blamed for things you had not done through life, whilst others around you were let off (the girls perhaps), then I can imaging a level of bitterness welling up in side you.
Personally I believe more of an effort should be made to incorporate some of these minority sub communities in to society… but that is easier said than done.
What I am trying to say is that a build up of disciminatory factors over time, aimed at a specific group, can cause a disgruntled community. Whilst you did not turn in to a knob at school, if you had carried on being blamed for things you had not done through life, whilst others around you were let off (the girls perhaps), then I can imaging a level of bitterness welling up in side you.
Good point young Turks. However, you could say that we currently have a law system that favours women (lower prosecution levels, shorter sentences for the same crimes), especially that a man accused of rape is now considered to be guilty until proven innocent, which is a very significant law. Maybe that does build up bitterness in men, but one thing doesn’t necessarily lead to another.
Let’s say a woman down my road is raped and the police want DNA samples from all the men. I could turn around and say that’s sexist, demanding that the women have DNA samples taken too. You never know, one of the women might be a man in disguise who was guilty of the crime. But chances are I’d be forcing the police to waste their time.
It’s like a car salesman in a posh garage. Chances are he’s going to give the man in expensive clothes more of his time than a man in old, cheap clothes. Is that right? Not really, but then we’re not the ones trying to pay off a mortgage and support a family. The salesman needs to get sales, not pander to public opinion.
Funny thing is, Ive always thought you had a big knob… go figure
Guilty as charged 😉
@=XDC=NeonSamurai wrote:
Good point young Turks. However, you could say that we currently have a law system that favours women (lower prosecution levels, shorter sentences for the same crimes), especially that a man accused of rape is now considered to be guilty until proven innocent, which is a very significant law. Maybe that does build up bitterness in men, but one thing doesn’t necessarily lead to another.
Having just spent three weeks in an NHS prepping office, with a 60 year old woman trying to have her wicked way with me… coming out with things such as “I want you to go to M&S and buy me some panties and suspenders”… “I’ve got my eye on you”… “I’ve made my cake nice and moist for you”… “I’ve got my knickers inside out”… etc etc, I can agree with you here… If it was a 60 year old man saying it to a 25 year old gorgeously attractive (Like me!) lady (errr unlike me!), then people would probably throw up more of a fuss. (think i might go and blow up Charing Cross Hospital ;))
I only form my own opinion through thinking how I would like it if I was in the position in question, so I kind of understand how these young, misguided, and easily manipulated young muslims turn to such extreme and horrific measures.
god what a load of bollox!!
and speaking of god being bollox at least the Pope is still out there kicking some arse…
Crusades II anyone…
WWIII anyone…
Four legs gooood, two legggs baaaaad
I think Alzir got it about right.
Neon, don’t mind Turks, he is going through one of his “Save the [insert liberal ideaology of the month] phases” Its normally quite funny.
Ignore Vic, he is just Germain Grear (SIC?) in disguise.
Wolf, its “I don’t discriminate, I hate everyone the same”
Errr, wot else, anyone see Conn Igulden given that fat femminist bitch a revving on telly this morning coz she said his book “The dangerous book for boys” was promoting sexisism/chauvanis etc. Wot a giggle I had. Even went and bought the book for myself.
@TurksMeister wrote:
… can cause a disgruntled community.
I’ll take disgruntled over dead any day…..
If it’s politics that you want then here’s a website for cats that look like Hitler.
@Lord Von Phartsbury wrote:
Errr, wot else, anyone see Conn Igulden given that fat femminist bitch a revving on telly this morning coz she said his book “The dangerous book for boys” was promoting sexisism/chauvanis etc. Wot a giggle I had. Even went and bought the book for myself.
Damn! I wish I’d seen that! I love it whan feminists pipe up about stuff they know jack shit about.
And to be perfectly honest, getting a feminist to comment on a book called “The Dangerous Book for Boys” is about as constructive as getting the head of the KKK to comment on Nelson Mandela’s biography.
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