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  • #60657
    XDCJuDgE-MenTaL
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    It was a try. Ref was only slightly better than the one that put the Kiwi’s out.

    #60658
    XDC Dutchman
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    Come on, was it a try, wasn’t it one, with the aid of tele replays and a qualified international referee, it was proven not to be one:
    Video ref
    Don’t blame the referees that you lost, he gave the English more than enough leniency, never seen so much blatant handball in ruck situations going unpunished and how Flood didn’t receive a yellow card for dangerous play I don’t know. End of the day you play with the cards you’ve been dealt

    But to take the side of the footy supporters, rugby can be a tad boring. 80 mins of play and we only saw a few glimpses of great skill ( like Tait’s break ).
    BUT, you’ve gotta admire how good rugby supporters are. No need to seperate them and stick the away fans between fences, and despite also drinking and getting drunk, you do not see the hooliganism you do with football supporters.

    #60659
    XDCJuDgE-MenTaL
    Participant

    Haha bait taken !!!

    Soz I was only poking the fire, I just wish they’d given the try to liven up a pretty dire game.

    Seriously though, it’s shut up a lot of the ‘Saffas’ here that were tirelessly going on about how it would be a total whitewash.
    Also, going back to the AB’s game what use were the aid of “tele replays” and a “qualified international referee” or even linesmen there???(btw, the video Ref was an Aussie :))

    You’re right tho how Flood got away with it by probably saying “No Ref, I was trying to stop myself not push Monty into the camera.”

    Look at this article from the NZ Herald website, although the author Peter Bills is chief rugby correspondent for Independent News & Media in London.

    Henry best off without tarnished trophy

    England were brave and courageous, South Africa disciplined and dedicated to defence. So was this a World Cup final to put before the planet via global television? You must be joking.

    What South Africa and England churned out in Paris was – in a technical sense – poor, unadventurous, defensive-minded rugby, littered with aimless kicking.

    But this isn’t rugby as we know it. Nor is it the rugby most people want to see played now or in the future. Sure, the South African nation will celebrate and claim all is well in their land now the mighty Bokke rule the world once again. They’ll be deluding themselves if they believe that.

    Never mind the frightening crime levels in their country, the nagging poverty and the alarming divisions between whites and blacks, between rich and poor. Winning a World Cup in such an ugly manner hardly reflects well upon either the ultimate champions or the game itself.

    South Africa have now played in two Rugby World Cup finals, won them both and not scored a single try in either.

    We are surely entitled to ask not only what that tells us about the Springboks’ approach, but also about what is wrong with the modern game. Do people pay anything up to 1000 euros ($1925) or more to watch a match of penalty goals, as well as interminable kicking up in the air?

    This was one of the most boring Rugby World Cup finals in history. Neither side wanted to risk anything; consequently, they kicked the ball away and invited the opposition to make mistakes with it.

    England did, conceding five penalties in the first hour that were all translated into points. Those acts of transgression decided the game.

    And that was all it took to win the trophy. No attacking-minded play, no inventiveness, little skill behind the scrum, scant originality in the play.

    The formula was dire and depressing. Only England’s Mathew Tait offered a glimpse of back-line creativity and cunning.

    So is this what rugby has come to, circa 2007? Is all that matters the fact that World Cup officials can sanction outrageous sums for tickets to the final, demand 15 euros ($29) for a programme and 30 euros ($58NZ) for a couple of bags of fries and two beers? Just a cynical exercise in how to fleece the public? Never mind the product; sure, that’s garbage and we all know that. But throw in a few fireworks after 80 minutes of mind-numbing boredom and hope the pundits will go home happy.

    The fools might have done; any with a brain would have known that what they saw was complete rubbish.

    About 12 months ago, All Blacks coach Graham Henry told me frankly “If winning a World Cup means we have to play defensive rugby, we have to kick the ball away and not play, then I’d rather not win it.”

    I have to tell you this: I believe Henry was dead right. Why would you want to win a World Cup playing no rugby, focusing entirely on defence and keeping the other lot out?

    If this is what it takes to win a World Cup, New Zealand is better off without the tarnished trophy.

    This glittering World Cup is no trophy of excellence. It’s been dumbed down to a trophy of the basics … who can deny longest, who can strangle the opposition, who can stop opponents playing, who can force mistakes from their rivals? That is what is required to win a World Cup in the modern game and New Zealand rugby is better off without such a devalued ambition.

    New Zealand got a lot wrong in their campaign, but playing no rugby, kicking the ball up in the air and just trying to keep out the other lot, were not their failings.

    This once-great game is at a crossroads, post the 2007 World Cup. Unless serious steps are taken to reward attacking play, to negate the incessant kicking and find some way to marginalise those who just don’t want to play, we can forget all about rugby as it once was.

    In Paris in front of 80,000 people, we had a foretaste of what this game will become in the future unless urgent action is taken to address its failings. Frankly, if this was a vision of the future, it was frightening.

    #60660
    sickofitall
    Participant

    That’s an interesting article from the New Zealand Herald there.

    Oh, note to New Zealand:
    Rugby doesn’t matter.

    #60661
    XDCJuDgE-MenTaL
    Participant

    😀 I did try to tell them……Made its point in like 3 paragraphs but ranted for 20 !!

    #60662
    XDCiNSANE
    Participant

    Rugby is full of pussy’s..

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc0Ut5y-GRc[/youtube]

    #60663
    Lensman
    Participant

    A few late ones there…… 😯 Brings back a few (painful) memories.

    And people say it’s boring….

    In a similar vein to Insane’s vid but with some actual play not just big hits:

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNKjoOV0RY4[/youtube]

    #60664
    XDC_Wolf
    Participant

    I love rugby!

    #60665
    XDC Dutchman
    Participant

    Following on from judge’s post,seems the grapes in NZ are even sourer than I could’ve imagined.
    If NZ wanted to leave their mark on the tournament they could’ve, but at times in their game vs France I got the feeling that somewhere someone was paying them to loose, because they never played like they wanted to win it

    I guess no kiwi would’ve been complaining if they won it, irrespective of how
    And what’s even funnier is these comments comes from a team who has never won the world cup. Ok, apart from that time when they won it but SA didn’t play, so technically, they’ve never won it when we’ve been in it

    #60666
    Lensman
    Participant

    Absolutely Dutchy.

    Can you imagine….NZ beat someone in a defense dominated final decided by kicks. On getting the trophy, they hand it back saying “No thanks, mate, we didn’t play wide. Rather you give it to the other team”. Yeah, riiiiggghhhhtt……

    The fact is NZ choked yet again. And I pissed myself laughing when France beat them. Chabal facing up to the Haka was a fantastic sight.

    Really good tournament this time. Some good upsets, a variety of games, and SA deserved to win. Never thought I would see England in the final, but really pleased they made it.

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