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Current PC is giving me the blue screen of death… so time to spend spend spend!
To cut to the chase!
Max willing to spend: £600
Already Have: Screen, mouse, keyboard, xfi soundcard
Want: Atleast 1tb hard drive, relative quiet (but not water cooling!)
Dont Want: glowy stuff, massive graphics (want to be able to play some older games but would prefer to save now and chuck something big in at a later date – would onboard cover this?)… but would like a PSU which could handle a meaty card.OS: I have found windows 7 pre order for £50… until then, I have heard I can use the beta for free… is this true?
Any suggestions? Ta
(on a side note – with an external enclosure, will i be able to easily recover my old files?)
__________________I’m not going to spec you a PC because I can’t be bothered.
My only bits of advice will be: don’t spend more than 125quid on a graphics card because they become redundant within months. I’ve found it much better to get a mid entry one which runs all the games fine on medium, but then again if you are a complete nutter and need to set everything to MAX*8888999789089 AA then you are doomed to waste cash in my humble mind.
Finally, get watercooling, it’s awesome!!! I’m running my ancient 3ghz P4 @ 3.6ghz and have never cleaned the system out, and it still runs pretty much everything. Although I think OFP2 will be beyond it’s realms of power. But bollocks to it, consoles are the way forward for gaming!
water cooling is a waste unless your into 1. silent or 2. extreme overclocking
with a decent cooler (can beat water cooling) and cpu decent clocks can be had….my lads intel 6400 duo 1.8 sits at 3 comfortably (with a £15 cooling fan), my q6600 quad 2.4 sits at 3.2 (theres more in it but my case is pants, heat)
best bang for buck gfx is ati 4890 1g can be had for £140 ish, ram is mega cheap at the mo so not less than four gigs (above can give problems in some games)
check out threads at overclockers.com for specs in your price range, been out of the loop for a while, but these guys are helpful.
i think you can get windows 7 RC free until next april ?
spend your money on a decent (not the best, but best overclocker/stable) mother board, cpu and gfx
you should be able to build a decent rig for your budget 😀
Edit. had a quick look….http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18027516″ onclick=”window.open(this.href);return false; a few errors but go for 4890 gfx or http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18027715″ onclick=”window.open(this.href);return false; check out Mattus spec but add the 4890 (best budget rig imo)
whatever you do get the ati 4890 (any flavour) eats my ati 3890×2 by miles…very very impressive, had mine for a week…best card for the money, my 3890×2 cost almost £300!!!!
1) Fuck water cooling – you dont need it.
2) On board graphics? Are you nuts? Go for a good mid range card like the gtx275.
3) DONT buy the stuff drom overclockers… you will end up paying more than a pre build… and since you are an idiot you may well blow yourself up.
4) You would be safer just buying a working OS and getting the upgrade voucher rather than trying to install a beta Win 7 (just my personal opinion.)I specced this up for you on PC specialist.
Processor (CPU)Intel® Core™2 Duo E8400 (3.00GHz) 1333MHz FSB/6MB L2 Cache
Memory (RAM)
2GB CORSAIR XMS2 800MHz – LIFETIME WARRANTY!
Motherboard
ASUS® P5QL: DDR2, SATAII, PCI-e x16, 3 PCI, 2 x PCI-e x1
Operating System
Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium 64-bit + Windows 7 Upgrade Voucher (£85)
USB Options
8 x USB 2.0 PORTS (6 REAR + 2 FRONT) AS STANDARD
Memory – 1st Hard Disk
1TB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
2nd Hard Disk
NONE
1st CD/DVD Drive
22x DUAL LAYER LIGHTSCRIBE DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
2nd CD/DVD Drive
NONE
Graphics Card
896MB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX275 PCI EXPRESS
2nd Graphics Card
NONE
Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Modem
NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND
Network Facilities
ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Floppy Disk Drive
NONE
Memory Card Reader
INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (READS XD, MS, CF, SD, etc)
Case
STYLISH SILVER/BLACK TRIDENT CASE + 2 FRONT USB
Power Supply & Case Cooling
800W Quiet Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£89) (Special Offer)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD CPU COOLER
Firewire & Video Editing
NONE
TV Card
NONE
Monitor
NONE
2nd Monitor
NONE
GeForce 3D Vision
NONE
DVI Cable
NONE
Keyboard & Mouse
NONE
Mouse
NONE
Speakers
NONE
Webcam
NONE
Headsets (VOIP)
NONE
Surge Protection
NONE
Printer
NONE
Anti-Virus
NONE
Office Software
NONE
External Hard Drive
NONE
Home Installation
NONE
Warranty
1 Year Return-to-Base incl 1st Month Free Collect & Return
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build – Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Quantity
1
£597.39 ex VAT.
£687 inc VAT and Delivery.
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/index.php?page=intelpcsystems” onclick=”window.open(this.href);return false;
didnt say buy it from overclockers i said read the forums…..vista and 2 gigs of ram…no, do not buy a no name psu if you want to up grade in the future.
read the oc forums turks and buy from wherever…they will spec you the best for your money
*edit the rig specified by mattus in second link with a 4890 would be the best bet…read,read and read
In Vista there is some payback from 1 to 2GB but the payback from 2 to 3 only shows in benchmarks and then only by tiny amounts other than in video editing. Going for 4… heck its hard to argue against more of anything… but bang for buck on his budget suggests to me getting a good motherboard/GFX card before extra ram. Easy to buy another couple of gig later when he has more money if he wants.
Agree having a good PSU is important, but they dont have an option for any of the big names on that site. Having said that – I have a PC specialist comp with that PSU running for 3 years now… currently powering geforce 8800GTX.
Easy to get sucked in by hype building PC’s – take crossfire for example 😈
my pc’s been on for several days and at present is using 2.419mb ram..ok a reboot and it will be 1.2ish, (and there are services i could switch off) 4gig of ddr2 6400 will set you back £40…worth it in my opinion, you need more than 2 to get the best out of vista.
re the psu, a large watt is redundant if it is shit , a quality 5-600 psu for a single gfx is fine, my corsiar 520 is running my overclocked quad, 4 gigs ram(oh you need it alright) 2 hd’s, xfi sound card,dvd rw and a 4890 overclocked fine.
the overclocker forums are without doubt (some cocks i know) the best place for advice re pc speccing, i have been pushing my pc’s as far as they can go for the last 6ish years, all with advice from there.
The danger of reading overclocker forums too much is that you might end up buying quad core CPU’s and crossfire GFX cards like yourself – both rather dubious activities in my opinion! 😈
Love a bit of geek banter! 😆
PC component makers are very similar to guys who sell Hi-Fi’s – 95% bullshit very cleverly marketed in the mid to high range category.
hmmm
okay, after a lot of research i bought the best motherboard for my budget, i bought a cpu i knew that with the motherboard i could get over 3 gigs with, i was told not to buy the 3890×2, but against their advice i bought it. As i said read, read and read. Buying some generic shit will not get you the best ‘bang for buck’ get the best you can for your set budget.
with my quad i can (as i do) play a game and convert videos without any slow down at the time, i do not have to turn any services off, the q6600 was considered the best (ie bang for buck) oc chip out there at the time and suited my needs, turks has a budget, he wants the best for his money, i am not suggesting he gets a quad or tri sli but only the best components for his budget.
tbh your condescending tone is pissing me off.
good luck in your purchase Turks
I recomend an Ati 4890 X2 gfx card.. faster in majority of games than the Nvidia 285 which is a lot more pennies!
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-126-XF” onclick=”window.open(this.href);return false; <-- This or http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-102-PC&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1403″ onclick=”window.open(this.href);return false; <--- This if you can spend the extra I’m really tempted to get one but not massivly desperate, depends what BF3 and OFP2 will require for me to spend at the mo
ummm cheers guys!
Although not after a big graphics card, as dont play PC games anymore!
Will have a gander at it all .. ta
@TurksMeister wrote:
ummm cheers guys!
Although not after a big graphics card, as dont play PC games anymore!
Will have a gander at it all .. ta
Well that would be a shame wouldn’t it? If you have 600 quid to spend you could have a competent rig for playing modern games on… maybe not with all the bells and whistles… but fine for some multiplayer games with us!
Dont you fancy some COH/ COD with XDC? As well as anything else that might crop up in the future?
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