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@=XDC=McQueen wrote:
Ok…
1. I have given you 2x links to companys that sell “the rare as fcuk master card”Did you actually try buying a master card back when the X850 / X1800 was around? I think not… ATI support was a joke, now silence, minion ๐
@=XDC=McQueen wrote:
2. Maybe when 2x cores came out there wasnt any support for dual core cpus but games that are being written now WILL have dual core support…and i dont think people buy pc JUST to play games so to have two or more cores would be a bonus for dvd ripping/photoshop/mp3`s etc.
These games are on the cards, but when will we see them? What games will support them? Of those that do, will anyone even bother buying them? For the next year or 2 those games that do use them will be in the minority and probably of little to no interest to most people and probably suck to boot. The big games from the big brands want to appeal to a braod spectrum of people, so untill the rest of the world catches up, do you really think they will bother adding support for what is at the minute a minorty? I think not… More cores are nice for other things and most people do want to do other things too, but to quote from the horses mouth: @=XDC=FluffyBunny wrote:
Oh and theres no pretending this is for anything other than a gaming rig.
A nice 3-4Ghz single core + hyperthreading or even a 2nd hand/old stock cheaper AMD FX would put any game in their place and do a better job than 1x 2.6Ghz core whilst the remainder are redundant.
@=XDC=McQueen wrote:
3. Waffle
That is 1 point maybe with Vista 32 allowing more memory than XP 32, but it’s still negating the fact that at the moment Vista is a waste of time due to it’s infancy.
You’re literally suggesting buying a dual core system for gaming, when by the time games with real support will be in abundance his dual core chip would suck, using an operating system with no history and little support when not everything works and paying extra on top to boot. By the same time his single core would suck too, but atleast it wouldn’t have had extra cores doing fuck all in the same period and would have performed better at what it was doing….
In 2 years time when he chucks his new machine in the bin for a bigger and badder machine there will be better penetration for other things like multi core gaming and Vista’s driver and support issues of course; but seriously between now and then support will be few and far between and untill that time comes, a damned good single core and good old XP would tide him over untill then much better and would save him some pennies too…
@=XDC=McQueen wrote:
@LeGIt wrote:
#1 Forget about Crossfire. It’s hard enough as it is to find a Mastercard… it’s as nice as Nvidia’s SLi but it’s much harder to track down compatible cards to make it work whereas Nvidia are much easier and much more forgiving to mix and match.
#2 Forget about multiple cores. Nice yes, but most games don’t support them; you will get better gaming performance for the majority of games on a damned good single core for the price, maybe even cheaper.
#3 Forget about Vista. On it’s own it is nice enough and it works, but not much else works for it. By the time Vista will be of any use to you, you will be due for a new PC again anyway… also it’s not really worth going for anything less than Ultimate and if you want to make use of all 4gb of that RAM + your VRAM you’re going to need a x64-bit version.
Jesus christ monkey balls……..
I thought all of the things you said in the “you will live longer going 200mph” thread was BS but this has got to be the worst/least thought about statment i have read this year…..
And that has to be the lamest and least constructive reply this year… as with the other thread.. yes lets poke holes, but lets not say what or where they are, but if we do they would be irrelevant points or have even less thought anyway -_-
#1 Last time I gave a crap about crossfire when I had money to spend the cards didn’t exist in the majority of shops and those that claimed to have them never had them in stock. When they did have themin stock, they were incompatible with most of the other cards they were selling anyway, which made them useless. My finger hasn’t been on the pulse because I haven’t had the money to spend and my card works fine with all settings maxed, so i’ve neevr had to bother looking recently to give a shit whether or not ATI have decided to pick up their support.
#2 Fluffy stated he wanted it to be a purely gaming machine. Multiple cores are not purely gaming… literally 1 or 2 games support them and none of them are frequented by XDC. For those games he does and will continue to frequent, seriously what is better for him? A Chip with more cores which will be slower, because the software won’t give a shit that other cores exist, OR a single core which will always be seen, which would have more grunt than the ‘lesser’ visible core in a multi core system?
#3 Vista runs nice yes but a lot of things don’t run nicely on it. Surely it’s good sense to give it time for all the shit to be worked out so that by the time Vista is worth buying, then and only then he buys it? XP has lots of life left in it, the reality being Vista isn’t even needed… Where are all these DX10 games? Where is all the driver support for this fancy hardware? it’s in a piss poor state and by the time it’s a worthy platform with decent support he actually will be due for a new PC as his machine would be out of date…
Bleh
You can’t have a theme tune you don’t sing and the only things that have ever been sung (by people other than myself) are gummibears and kikkoman -_-
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Show me, Show you, Kikkoman, Kikkoman!
Noob!
I had my 7800 GT a year before the X1900 XT came out…
I had a 5900 Ultra in 2003 … a 7800 GT in 2005 and guess what came out in between, in 2004? The 6800 GT…
When I got my 7800 GT my friend bought an X1800 – the X1800 came out a year before the X1900 and it came out a year AFTER the 6800… so I really can’t see how Nvidia could only have had a 6800 vs a X1900… considering the 7800’s and 7900’s followed it!! After he had problems with his ATI (mostly by not being able to get crossfire setup) he took it back and got a 7800 GT too… we ran them in SLI for a while whilst going through F.E.A.R. ๐ Soo… they could have just as easily ran 2x 7950’s in SLI vs an X1900 XT… but then that also wouldn’t be a fair test because 1 on 1 they’re pretty similar anyway and 2 of them would just wtfpwn the solo X1900 XT…
Go crossfire tomorrow, I dare you ๐ Better still, try going back in time and go Crossfire in Q4 2005, it was nigh on impossible, though it may be a bit easier by now…
I pay for 1mb and actually get 2mb… though since the virgin rebranding my conenction has barely worked =/
In the beginning SLI did even need identical manufacturers, but it’s been ATLEAST 18 months since you can mix and match cards in the driver updates, which is quite a long time tbh…
The 6800 was not the card competing with the X1900… the 6800 was circa Q2 2004, the X1900 XT circa Q2 2006… yes.. fair trial comparing the card against a card that is 2 years and 2 generations older… ๐ IIRC The GeForce 7950 GT was knocking around when the X1900 XT came on the scene so really it’s no wonder they wanted to compare it with an old Nvidia card – to make the ATI ‘look’ better than it actually was and to make SLI ‘look’ like it sucked ๐
If you really don’t need a master card, why do they make them if they’re making a compatible motherboard too? Because you need them, but can’t find them… but I wouldn’t be surprised if they updated the chipset on the motherboard recently because no one could find a mastercard lol…. Yes it does have to be same spec mastercard btw.. atleast it used to be anyways, literally had to be identical, except a master -_- Then the catch was you couldn’t get a master, because they didn’t really exist and when they did it was for a model different to your own. Crossfire was also out a year before you got your card btw…
Know what you’re talking about before you open your mouth, maybe you need a title under your forum name ๐
Microsoft Intellimouse Optical ๐ รฦรโรยขรขโยฌร ยกรฦรขโฌลกรโรยฃ15 and 5 years later – it isn’t broken and I still kick ass…. those mega dpi mice are for puffs!!
@=XDC=iNSANE wrote:
My single X1900XT card is faster than 2 x 6800GT’s in Sli mode.. so ner! and and.. umm.. its not hard to find Master cards either.. you really should think and maybe look before opening ya gob ๐
My left testicle is faster than 2x 6800GT’s in SLI ๐ That’s why I got 7800 GT -_- You can’t really compare 1 or a hundred 6800GT’s to an X1900 unless you’re scared though – the 6800 is 2 generations behind an X1900, the Nvidia equivalent = wtfpwns ๐
The whole mastercard with ATI is bullshit… why is it needed really… Nvidia you can use any 2 cards from the same series – none are masters or slaves, they’re all hermaphrodites ๐ Even better you don’t have to buy from identical manufacturers so long as the cards are from the same series and you don’t even have to mix identical models from the same series… If you look at the spec of those masters they’re not even the same spec as the slaves and with ATI the slaves are fussy, or atleast a hell of a lot fussier (and shitter) than Nvidia ๐ yes you found masters, but then where are the slaves to match? infact… they all say pre-order.. crossfire has been out for years and so have the problems of getting it to work. i’m betting you only have 1 card because you couldn’t get a master ๐
I know a lot of people who have done their PGCE part time in the evenings when I was a techi for an educational place… they still do their normal jobs and live in their normal homes, the only catch being it takes twice as long to get…. but if you really want it but don’t want to be in that environment then you really are not going to have many other options.. mov eout, get a job, get your own place and do it part time ๐
Also regards to the landlord tkaing out the itnernet – if the landlord owns the net and it is in their room by coincidence, then it does not make them the masters of the internet; the landlord is. Bitch aboutit to him and he should give them a slap or two?
#1 Forget about Crossfire. It’s hard enough as it is to find a Mastercard… it’s as nice as Nvidia’s SLi but it’s much harder to track down compatible cards to make it work whereas Nvidia are much easier and much more forgiving to mix and match.
#2 Forget about multiple cores. Nice yes, but most games don’t support them; you will get better gaming performance for the majority of games on a damned good single core for the price, maybe even cheaper.
#3 Forget about Vista. On it’s own it is nice enough and it works, but not much else works for it. By the time Vista will be of any use to you, you will be due for a new PC again anyway… also it’s not really worth going for anything less than Ultimate and if you want to make use of all 4gb of that RAM + your VRAM you’re going to need a x64-bit version.
Mario kart 64 was nice but I’d have to say go with mario kart double dash. I bought 2 gamecubes, 2 copies of mario kart and I tracked down 2 network adapters in 2005 (@รฦรโรยขรขโยฌร ยกรฦรขโฌลกรโรยฃ50 each -_-) so we can have either 8 player mario kart at christmas etc or just have 2 player with a screen each – damned good fun, but if you’re going to use tunneling software to play it online it takes away the fun factor of insulting people sat right next to you, who you know…
@=XDC=McQueen wrote:
How the fuck can Video ram count as system ram?? โ Yeah ok if you have onboard vga THAT will steal video ram from your system ram but never in my 9 years of building/repairing computer systems have i ever seen or heard owt like that.
That’s because out of all your years of system building no one has ever had 4gb of ram and 1.5gb of vram in their machines because it’s only recently been the case where the limits of 32-bit have been pushed and memory has been affordable and available enough to reach those limits. I’ve also been building systems just as long and it’s new too me too, but I’ve seen it with my own eyes and it can, does and will happen – try it yourself as IIRC you have a shop so parts should be readily available to confirm this? Also video ram is not stealing from the main ram – it’s just windows xp x32 can only use 4gb so it’s using 1.5gb of the vram and 2.5gb of the main ram = 4gb… the other 1.5gb of system ram was just ignored ๐ When he went 64 bit when I let him use a copy from a Microsoft Action pack it sees it all though…
Also don’t forget your Graphics card RAM counts towards the total 4gb the OS will support… as my friend found out when he splashed out on 2x 768mb 8800GTX’s and 4Gb of DDR2… Windows x86 only saw 1.5gb of VRAM and 2.5Gb of DDR2… After installing x64 Vista/XP he has had no problems since… apart from sucking at every game he plays ๐
I edited my post – didn’t expecta rapid reply ๐ But anyhow, go back ot page 1 and re-read, or try resetting the factory defaults by pushing a pin thru the hole ๐
Yeah on netgear when you login you can block services then put in a custom port – I forget the maximum range but it’s something like 0-just under 66k on TCP/UDP. Make a custom service which uses all ports, then specify the IP range for the affected users to be banned from using it.
If you’re not that cruel you can enable keyword filtering and block words they use a lot like porn or chat etc and set your IP to be the only one able to browse unrestricted ๐
If you can’t get past the admin password IIRC if you press the button in the hole on the side to reset to factory defaults, it resets the password too, so that could provide you with an avenue of access, if it doesn’t reboot the password it would undo their port forwading, they would have to login again to make everything work then you have your opportunity to get your changes made. If they refuse, just keep resetting the factory settings to undo their settings untill they comply, or hit them ๐
For arguments sake you may as well disable the router’s firewall though and let everyone manage their own individually on their own machines. It’s a little more risky, but in theory there should be no real problems.
