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Considering buying one of these…..what do i need ??
3g network ?? wifi ?? whats the difference ??
why do i want one ?? what will i do with it ?? 😕
i know not why…..i merely know that i must have one !! must be angry birds !!
my housemate has an ipad 1 and we use it all the time, but only for silly games which very rarely make much sense, I personally wouldn’t bother unless the money was burning in my pocket, also the app store is rubbish, navigating it is sooooooo terrible (you scroll down a list by pressing show more and select an app, if you don’t want it and go back, you are back at the top of the list and have to press show more repeatedly to get back to where you were, and that’s just the first thing) The autocorrect is atrocious (see various websites such as “damnyouautocorrect) and it is waaaaaaaay overpriced, it’s not practical to take anywhere without a bag, meaning it’s a home job, where it can be useful for checking up on t’internet without having to turn on a computer, but heaven forfend you should want to watch anything online, flash doesn’t work making it an impotent browser, I find it bizarre that you need to download a BBC app to watch any of the videos, even then it only shows selected ones, same with IPlayer and 4OD, need seperate apps when flash does the job just as well.
If you have a smart phone don’t bother with an ipad. Oh, and another thing, my housemate bought an effect app for his guitar, can’t plug in a guitar without a proprietary adapter due to it usin the same jack for headphones and input. I could go on.
Please ignore Paddy, he has a vendetta against Apple because they have now banned all gingers from the Apple Store. His arguments are also factually incorrect. If you really want a tablet device also check out the Motorola XZoom.
But to answer your questions :
If your not taking your tablet outside the house and have a wireless network then you don’t need the 3G version (which also requires a data plan from one of the mobile phone companies).
I personally have no need for a tablet device, but I suppose its a light “pick up and use” internet capable device. You can sit on the sofa and browse the net, watch video, etc.. plus the games which may or may not be your cup of tea.
From the different ones I have seen, apple has the edge in terms of lightness, design, and I feel the best OS of the lot. However, if you’re not bothered about any of that and just want a cheap machine, there are loads out there now that run Android. It’s slowly catching up in terms of app content to Apple, but is still some way behind.
To answer Paddy’s points – Flash is no longer something that is needed on mobile devices for a number of reasons, and YES you can (without an external app) watch BBC iplayer, YouTube, etc.. / THe app store works fine for me and the millions of others out there / It’s not far off in terms of price than the Motorola,which is more or less the same spec, although the xzoom is pug ugly, thick, heavy etc.. no apple care available either (which is a big plus!!)
ALL mobile devices will need an impedance converter for a guitar, and how the fuck else would you get a 1/4″ jack into a 1/8″ input? a Gender bender?? Autocorrect? turn it off and learn to spell. blah blah fuckin blah.. 🙄
Sorry Ben, but fuck that, I have been using an ipad for the past six months and everything I said was what I found except the cable to plug in a guitar being proprietary, apparently Peavey do one (although I didn’t find it when I looked but did find some DIY kits/instructions). I still can’t get 4OD to work without an App, or Youtube
As I said the other day the Iplayer didn’t work on the ipad, it really didn’t use to, and it didn’t when I tried it even when it was available on the iphone.
If you use the iPad’s built-in Safari browser to visit the iPlayer home page, you’ll get served the version for the desktop browser — and that means Flash video that you can’t see on the iPad. Go straight to the mobile version of the site, which works a treat on the iPhone, and you’ll get a roundhouse kick right in the kisser, with a message saying “your phone does not support BBC iPlayer”.
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/how-to-get-bbc-iplayer-on-the-ipad-49305564/
Also for some explicable reason you seem to see it as an attack on Apple (which it wasn’t, I don’t think tablets are worth the money full stop, you will note I didn’t recommend anything else), it was the honest feedback from someone who has been using one for an extended period, not someone who has played around with one in the stores and assumes that all the Apple products are good because they are Apple.
whilst I agree with you that Flash is not necessarily the future and HTML 5.0 is, there are still apparently 47% of the top 17,000 websites using it *
(http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/application-development/2011/04/11/adobe-flash-player-usage-dips-at-leading-websites-40092458/) so it is still an issue. especially as Safari is outperformed on all but one benchmark in this review (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1610/1/) of browsers by google chrome and most other browsers, including the HTML 5 performance (The one it wasn’t outperformed on was when it got 100/100 along with other browsers), a cursory indication that even if HTML 5 was adopted everywhere, the Safari browser wouldn’t be the best browser to use it with.As for your other point the other night regarding youtube videos on the app on the iphone/ipad, go to youtube on a normal pc and search for “c4paralympics” and the results are, well lets just say way more than the 10 you can view on the Ipad app. I told you this the other day because it happens that my housemate is in charge of overseeing the talent and blogging for Channel 4’s coverage of the Paralympics and actually blogs in some of the videos. You actually told me I was lying when I told you why there are so few of the videos on the youtube app, which I actually did take umbrage to, but please feel free to try it.
In fact search youtube for “Andy Barrow and the wheelchair rugby “Journey of pain”” and then do the same on the ipad app (I can’t say it’s the same on the iphone, I don’t have one, but I think I can fairly safely speculate as to it).
*(edit: actually 48% as of june 2011 http://httparchive.org/interesting.php?a=All&l=Jun%2015%202011)
Whoa, steady on.. you can’t find the Peavey Amp kit?
SO how come on all my apple devices I can stream BBC iplayer without an external app. Oh, sorry it the magic pixie-dust I sprinkle on every morning.
I never said it was an attack on Apple, and if you read my comments I actually advise that Sprog looks at the Motorola product, and I’m not even going to go into the other points you now raised, as it’s getting pretty boring.
I have never accused you of lying? However, you sat there and told me I was talking out my arse when I mentioned the issue with an impedance converter.. Y’know, Paddy, I am not in the slightest bit irked, or upset at the TS argument a WEEK ago, yet here you are still going on..? I think you seriously need some pussy.
I gave my opinion on tablets, like you I weighed the pro’s and cons of the device, but ultimately everyone has different needs. So, no they are not a “waste of money” if you require the function and form of a tablet.
And one final thing. You seem to think that I have some pro-Apple stance, that is not the case, merely a preference due to my daily use and work, and if someone asks my opinion on a certain Apple product I am far more qualified than you to do so. You for some reason seem to get pleasure out of this anti-apple thing, which I just don’t get. I couldn’t care less on your opinion on the products that I choose to work with. I have never sent you a link to a pro-Apple article, unlike the pish you bombard me with every time I log on. I’m beyond humouring you with this, so give it a rest, discuss the evil empire that is Apple with someone who gives a shit.
Sprog, Go to a phone shop, play about with a few devices, if you like what you see and the form of a tablet appeals to you, decide on which one suits your needs and budget.
Paddy, your a dick 😀
How can you be more qualified to give an opinion on a product you’ve never really used when I have been doing for a long while now? I mean seriously, whatever. Almost every product will have a niche market, but when someone is thinking about buying one when they don’t know why they need it, I’m going to tell them that it’s not as useful as a smart phone and it’s a waste of money. If you have a need for it then it’s not a waste of money.
I don’t think you actually read any of my post, it wasn’t an attack on Apple and I didn’t assume you had a pro Apple stance, you raised some points the other day on TS ( I was away this weekend and had someone staying for a couple of days) and I answered the questions you asked, so stop reading into things that aren’t there. FYI you did accuse me of lying about the youtube issue when I told you about the C4Paralympics videos not being viewable on non flash enabled devices, which was when I said you were talking out of your arse, quite why I would accuse a musician of talking out of his arse when discussing guitar adapters I have no idea.
I have expanded on the issues with Flash on another post which I doubt you will read, but you should, you’ve never explained to me what your beef was with Flash (I know there are many) so my other post might address some of those issues you have.
I am much more qualified to give an opinion on Apple products as I use them every day at work and at home… likewise, if someone asks an opinion on a Widows/Android system I am completely uninformed.
You don’t assume I have a pro-Apple stance?? Yea right.. I actually don’t. And, as I have said on many occasions, if I had different needs/wants I would use whatever product suited.
Stop reading into things that aren’t there?? Couldn’t care less, Paddy, I’m far too fuckin weary arguing with you on this point.. OK, you win, blah blah etc..
When did I ever say you were lying? On my iphone and ipad 2 I can stream youtube and have never ever had a video not play, maybe your mates ipad needs a software update.. why the fuck would I lie about this?? On the videos I have posted I can watch them with no problem, and I have never had to select an option for mobile devices.
I have no beef with Flash, except when it comes to mobile devices. There are better and more efficient ways to deliver media, and there are issues when developing flash for both the large format and mobile market. (And yes, thats a qualified opinion)
Why would you doubt I’ll read your post? Interested to hear why you’d say that. AND if I did, why on earth would I want you to “address my flash issues” I have a team of people at work who as developers are a bit more qualified than you to give me advice.
However, I’m sure with your vast experience of playing with your mates iPad, and all the very well respected blogs and internet articles you read, I am misjudging your expertise, and for that I am humbly sorry..
Hi guys
I,m waiting for this until to be released until I buy a tablet …
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/toshiba-hoping-its-tablet-will-thrive
L8rs
Hey
Check it out …
http://www.l2d2online.co.uk/toshiba-thrive-at105-t108-8gb-tablet-black.html
Seems reasonable doesnt it.
L8rs
well…i got the pad 2
and it fuggin rocks !!!
im currently embedded in ‘nanostudio’ knocking up dope beats and shifting them over to my soundcloud…..so if nothing else the ipad has allowed me the opportunity to do something i have wanted to do for 20 years but never had the know how of where to begin
knockin up dope beats !!!
gertie…if you see this….hook me up…im now on skype doodzor !!!
This is the only reason you’d (Or me) want an Ipad..
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DMC Champ entry
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Its about £14 but worthy of a purchase, if I had teh coin I’d probably jon Darth Jobs over on the Darkside and get an Ighey just for this alone
🙂
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