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  • #19166
    TurksMeister
    Participant

    Playing some proper poker tomorrow night. £20 buy in… texas hold ’em

    Any tips? Ive played online a bit, but am notorioulsy shit!

    #76400
    xdc magicker
    Participant

    i think you need a gun up your sleeve.. dont know why but every poker movie i have ever seen had one

    #76401
    Alzir
    Keymaster

    First and foremost don’t go in scared of losing that money, as that’ll distract you too much throughout the game.

    Make sure you know the game, and maybe google search some poker odds for making common draws, eg flush draws, and inside or open ended straight draws. With this you’ll have a much better idea of how strong your position actually is.

    It’s good to play aggressive but don’t go over the top with your betting. A common mistake I see all the time is a new player gets a great hand preflop then goes all in. If you get AA preflop for example, you don’t want to lose everyone preflop, as you’ll just win the blinds or some early bets. You do want to reduce the numbers you’re facing, but be careful not to bet everyone out of a hand which could easily net you a nice haul on the flop. The standard raise I think is still 3x the big blind, and anything over that is pretty excessive for certainly an opening raise. In private games, against inexperienced players, you can scare people off with even minimal preflop raises, so vary what you bet depending on the circumstances.

    Don’t be afraid to fold good preflop hands when they don’t hit, or the flop becomes dangerous. Good example is AA preflop vs a flop that see’s two Kings come out. If you raised and were called preflop, there’s a reasonable chance someone who called holds a King, so be wary in situations like this.

    Try and figure out who the other new players are at the table and be wary of trying to bluff them. They often play stupid cards to the end and in all circumstances, so try and make your plays against them with reasonable cards, and milk them for as much as you can when they’re blindly calling.

    Be aware of your position with respect to the dealer, and try not to play weak hands if your one of the first ones to bet preflop. If there’s not a lot of preflop betting going on in general, you can loosen up here though.

    Don’t play too many hands, but concentrate on what’s happening when you’re not playing. Watch for patterns in peoples play.

    Don’t show your cards, ever, unless you’re comfortable with winding someone up by showing a bluff (you don’t want to end up second guessing someone after you’ve provoked them in an earlier hand). Sometimes you can hit a run of cards on the trot where it can start to appear as though you’re bluffing, and occassionally I’d start to show cards under these circumstances if I wasn’t comfortable projecting that image.

    Oh and of course, be aware of your table image and mix it up during the game. If you’re considered a tight player, you can loosen it up, and likewise you can tighten up if early bluffs were spotted.

    I could go on, but I’ve the sort of length on this post where the forum really doesn’t like me typing, and is making it difficult to see what I’m writing. That should help though…and damn I want a game of poker now 🙁

    #76402
    xdc the doc
    Participant

    If you dont know how to play Turks there is a technique that you could use that will give you a higher chance of success as a complete noob.

    The standard raise is 2.5-3 times the big blind. You play like follows….

    You only play the top ten hands…

    A-A

    K-K

    Q-Q

    A-K suited

    J-J

    10-10

    9-9

    8-8

    A-Q suited

    7-7

    memorise them.

    Whenever you get a hand you are going to play….. raise 5 or 6 times the big blind. This is a much bigger than usual raise and will likely scare people away the first few times. Eventually someone will raise you and then you just make a judgement call. If you have AK, AA or KK then go all in. Otherwise – i would fold to any raise, but see how things pan out if they just call.

    If you are lucky you might build a bit of a stack in the first 15 minutes or so… then you could mix it up a wee bit by occasionally calling with other hand combinations – but stick to the core.

    This isn’t expert play by any means – but will be better than most beginners could manage.

    Everything Matt said is good advice… but possibly too much to take in all at once.

    #76403
    xdc magicker
    Participant

    and listen to lady gaga’s poker face on your ipod.. this will help you figure out what doc is talking about.

    #76404
    Alzir
    Keymaster

    How did you get on Turks btw?

    Partly because of this topic I’ve just fired some money back into Absolute Poker, to rekindle my online poker career, but considering the first game I think I’m a little out of practice 😆 Harder to apply to live games, because they progress a lot slower, but having patience is a good tip sometimes as I’m finding out again 🙂

    #76405
    TurksMeister
    Participant

    I came 9th out of 10!

    Was doing pretty well, but made the fatal error of drinking a bit too much and trying to bluff… didnt work!

    Need to read more into it before I play again, didnt realise quite how much skill was involved!

    #76406
    TurksMeister
    Participant

    Just started playing online again ($1 games), and am £4 up today using these techniques – cheers chaps!

    #76407
    Alzir
    Keymaster

    Turks, make yourself a rule to never play when drunk.

    You’re doing the right thing playing small stakes games first, and well done on the initial success 🙂

    #76408
    XDCErratic-Space
    Participant

    Good call on not playing drunk…the greed takes over and you end up selling your granny on the blackmarket just to get a few more chips!

    #76409
    TurksMeister
    Participant

    So… what do you do when its 1 on 1? Do you still fold the non “best hands” or would you play more? like A 10?

    #76410
    xdc the doc
    Participant

    Your range of starting hands has to increase considerably the fewer players there are. Even losing 1 player from a 6handed table changes the game a lot… so once you get to 1vs1 it is a whole different ball game.

    Basically any pair and any face card holding has potential once you get to 1vs1.

    #76411
    Alzir
    Keymaster

    Between 2 players, I think J-7 is the average hand (correct me if I’m wrong), which means it would win half of the time versus any two unknown cards. This makes a lot of junk hands like J-8, or Q-2, worth a gamble with, and also means that any high cards (as Doc says) are huge, especially aces and kings.

    Also remember that any two cards can win in poker, so even if you have the chance to see a free flop for cheap with real junk like 7-2 offsuit, you still have a chance to beat hands like AK a 33% of the time, or something thereabouts. My memory’s a little hazy on stats though, so you may want to look up a few yourself, but junk cards are definitely worth playing in heads up occassionally. You can even be aggressive with them, so long as you don’t go overboard with your bluff if he makes a stand 🙂

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