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@Lammie wrote:
Re overclocked bundle, again there isn’t an option for this via PartPicker but it’s made so much easier now via apps that come shipped with the MB it’s almost irrelevant. You don’t even need to go into the BIOS in most cases now and fanny around with a multitude of settings, and hope it doesn’t blue screen at boot or go up in a puff of smoke.
No disrespect mate but I am not sure how much overclocking you have done. Do a google search on clocking with software utilities – just about everyone says DO NOT USE THEM. I have mucked about with one but got warned off it. They are not safer than using the BIOS – they don’t get anywhere near the same speeds and you can blue screen your computer just as easily.
Even if they did work… a lot of overclocking relies on getting the right marriage of hardware. if you get the wrong chip / MB / memory (either poor choice or just an unlucky bit of hardware that doesn’t overclock so easily) then it might not get to the speeds you would like. By buying an overclocked system you are getting a guaranteed speed without any risk… i wish i had done that!
@Lammie wrote:
As you seem so determined to prove your point lets examine this further to see if your argument holds water. If you can prove me wrong I’ll hold my hands up and admit defeat (maybe…) So I counter challenge you find a prebuild system with the same compents I’ve posted (forget the overclocking bit at the minute as it’s irrelevant) within the magic £200 window.
Ummm – thats a bit too easy. Here is a quick one on PC specialist (Haven’t even bothered looking round other sites looking for special package deals).
Spent 170 quid more than you…. same case, chip, GFX, and hard drive, but I doubled the SSD size, increased the quality / speed of the memory, got a higher rated PSU, got a nice aftermarket cooler to let me overclock it, got a warranty, and had it all built for me. Couldn’t get exact same MB – but the ASUS one is about the same price as the one you got.
Case
COOLERMASTER CM STORM ENFORCER – GAMING ENTHUSIAST CASEProcessor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-3570 (3.4GHz) 6MB CacheMotherboard
ASUS® P8Z77-V LK: PCI-E 3.0 READY, SLI, CROSSFIREXMemory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)Graphics Card
2GB AMD RADEON™ HD7850 – DVI,HDMI,DP – DX® 11, Eyefinity 3 CapableMemory – 1st Hard Disk
1TB 3.5″ SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE2nd Hard Disk
240GB INTEL® 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAMPower Supply
CORSAIR 750W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX750 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE (£86)Processor Cooling
Corsair H40 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler (£39)Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)Network Facilities
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT – AS STANDARD ON ALL PCsUSB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTSOperating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIREDOffice Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWAREAnti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWAREWarranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)Build Time
Standard Build – Approximately 9 to 11 working days – £1018LoL – arguing on the internet is a mugs game at any rate. Like you say – WET can go digest all that and do what he wants. 😀
Forget all this arguing…. spend your money on this case….
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-579-LL&groupid=2362&catid=187
And these amazing glasses for 99 dollars… that help you ‘see’ your games better.
At the risk of doing a Doc… 😛 That’s not what I meant. I should have been clearer with the challenge in that you are not pricing my PC but the one that I selected from Partpicker as a comparison to the orginal quote posted by WET. So the mission should you choose to accept it is.. Pick the same parts I’ve listed from a prebuider and see if you can get it within £200 of the of my overall price of £1178.
This must include the same parts,and an OS.
I’ve posted the quote from the previous page for you.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£166.79 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£59.00 @ Ebuyer)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver Arctic Alumina 5g Thermal Paste (£7.27 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LX ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£83.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: Kingston Predator Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£110.60 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5″ Solid State Disk (£128.60 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5″ 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£47.50 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (£279.98 @ Novatech)
Sound Card: Creative Labs SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card (£63.49 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master Silencio 550 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£60.23 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£67.99 @ Dabs)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.66 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHOS104-06 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Drive (£22.98 @ Ebuyer)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£68.35 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1178.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-06 11:10 BST+0100)LOL arguing on the internet is what it was invented for was it not? 😀
Ummm… Lammie… I would just need to post WETs PC specialist build to answer that challenge. Remember… thats the one that you based your parts picker on! LOL. 🙂
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@=xdc=maniac wrote:
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If I didn’t know better, I’d say you’re trying to start an anti-apple flame war 🙂
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Ok guys, just to drive you a little more nuts, i’ve been and specced a new pc from pcspecialist again:
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Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES™ 200R COMPACT GAMING CASE
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked Intel® Core™i5-4670k Quad Core (3.40GHz @ max 4.20GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® Z87-A: ATX, USB2.0, USB3.0, SATA6GB/S, SLi, XFIRE
Memory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 – 2 DVI, HDMI, DP – 3D Vision Ready
Memory – 1st Hard Disk
240GB INTEL® 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX750 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE (£89)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H60 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler (£59)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Facilities
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT – AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build – Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Quantity
1The above weighs in at £1268.00 which is a little over what i wanted to pay but seeing as it’s going to last me a good few years i guess i can spend a little more and take their finance option to pay it off over 12 months.
My questions really are what do you guys think of the case,the mobo and also the SSD? I’ve read mixed reviews about the gfx card with some saying it’s better than the 680 and others that it’s somewhere between the 670 and 680 but if anyone kmnows any different then i’d appreciate hearing about it.
cheers gents.
Ill have a good look tomorrow. 770gtx is the card i would opt for right now though, unless u can dob780
I was going to hang out until BF was released but having watched a good few rising storm vids I’m now tempted to get a machine to play that until I can get my BF fix……………still wish the new BF was WW2 though 🙁
Ok, writing this on phone so excuse spelling.
Looks good overall, just a few comments.
The new haswell cpus have mostly focussed on power saving for mobile platforms and integrated graphics, neither of which you need. If u can get a similarly overclocked ivybridg setup (3570k) for 15-20% cheaper, that would be a good trade.
Good choice on graphics card as i said, good quality power supply too.
You could also save money onnot getting a blue ray player unless you specifically want to watch blue ray movies as physical media is not really needed for a pc these days other than to simplify os installation.
Nice case too.
All in all, a fine build, could shave a few pounds here and there, maybe put it towards a pre overclocked graphics card or 16gb ram or something.
I’ll check the price of the ivybridge CPU and also why it’s selected a blue ray player as I’ve no need for it. Would 16Gb be any use as everything I’ve read so far shows negligible gains over 8Gb.
There are a few choices for the SSD, I’ll check them later and post them here to see if you think one is any better than the others.Cheers.
I agree that at this stage, you dont have that much need for 16gb but in 3 years time, you will likely find thatvyou can make better use of the extra ram than u can a blue ray player. But no significant gains just now.
Ssd wise, i read good things about the samsung 840 series and the intel series you selected. It came down to price for me and the samsung drive was cheaper. It set up no problem and is super fast. I dont have intel drive to compare to and im sure synthetic benchmarks mean nothing in real life so id just go with whatever is cheaper.
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