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Last week Kahuna reported to Beer that he had been frustrated on this map by the carrier AA which was firing onto some of the flags, and picking up kills. Beer himself reported it happening last night. The question is should we rule against it?
Personally I think it’s the most clear cut example of a mistake in a map’s design, and I’d expect it to be fixed eventually, though it’s likely down EA’s list of priorities at the moment. Now I know you could kill people with AA in previous version of BF, 1942 for example it was often considered a well executed move if you could sneak onto the flak gun and take out a take or person, and you could also kill ppl from the carrier’s AA, in particular on Midway and Coral Sea. The issue in BF3 though is that the carrier can’t be sunk and, as far as I’m aware, you’re invulnerable inside the carrier’s AA gun (though could someone confirm?).
On the other side of the argument though, banning it might discourage ppl from using the AA, which means more space for the Russian aircraft, and there’s also the question of how bad it is anyway? I’ve yet to be on the receiving end of it, and I wonder how it can be that bad when there are plenty of obstacles you can make sure are inbetween your position and the carrier’s line of sight?
What do we think as a group?
I have to hold my hand up and admit to doing that on the first couple of nights we had the game available. The map is now far too much fun to sit and blast away from the AA gun. It’s not that easy though, firstly, you have loads of objects in the way, and the zoom is poor. You have to spot the target and hope they stay still long enough. It’s effective only against artillery coming in to A or B, and infantry who (rarely) are in the far right crane on B. But yes, like the RPG, poor form on infantry etc.
Well if it’s difficult, and line of sight is poor, then maybe it’s not major enough for us to take action on.
Well, I found it difficult. But I find most things difficult. As ever, if someone is taking the piss, a quiet word.
It’s not hard to avoid the fucker, just hide! It is however too overpowered in terms of air for the Americans and the Amtrax is a bitch to kill even in a tank, if I’m Russian then I expect to loose this one!
@crazy hippo wrote:
solution is not to stand in view of the carrier!!
From my point of view I wasn’t anywhere near the carriers….in fact as far away as you can get to it, approaching the stormdrain. I can only guess someone spotted me and the carrier AA fired in my general direction and the rate of fire picked me off in no time.
Fact is that the carrier AA shouldn’t be able to pick infantry or land based vehicles, and therefore it’s a bug in the game.
As far as I’m concerned, a nice and polite “can you please stop doing that, old chap?” then a “Right, fuck off you nobber” in the kick message. 🙂
an aa gun can and should take out infantry and vehicles, it’s going to hurt getting hit by the fucker!
Ah yeah, sorry….i must have got the wrong end of the stick. You see news reports of the USS Nimitz base raping the fuck outta the afghans all the time. 🙄
@Beer_Monster wrote:
Ah yeah, sorry….i must have got the wrong end of the stick. You see news reports of the USS Nimitz base raping the fuck outta the afghans all the time. 🙄
If the U.S Navy could figure out a way of getting it there, i’m sure they would :p
I vote that we don’t get started with all this shit… play the game and respond to stuff through the game as it happens. Making up arbitrary rules just annoys me. Same goes with people complaining about base raping. Just get on with it!
The AA has minimal effect on ground troops as they are too far away in most cases and the shots are generally too spread out and random. there are also plenty of places to hide from it so IMO it doesnt affect the gameplay. It does serve well as a spotter though and of course, doing the main job its supposed to. The only thing i think EA should be concerned about is perhaps nerfing the armor a bit as they are quite tough to kill as paddy found out yesterday
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