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August 10, 2006 at 4:32 pm #31818LensmanParticipant
@ajnabi121 wrote:
I don’t support them firing on the innocent people in Israel but what are Israel doing with PRECISION GUIDED MISSILES???
Israel isn’t some backwards country reliant on being given eveything. They have some of the most advanced high-tech companies in the world. While they do import some precision weapons, they also design and build their own.
They also pretty much pioneered remote battlefield drones, and the US were big customers of theirs until their own RPV programs got up and running.
August 10, 2006 at 6:37 pm #31819XDCSprogParticipantOf course rather than answer that he just rants on about nuclear missiles, which is something he just made up on the spot.
so you are pulling apart one comment made up on the spot then ?? and disecting it ?? correct ??
yet fail to mention the too many to number bullshit lies we are told on a daily basis by our politicians ??
let me get this straight…..if george tells a porkie its a conspiracy……if blair tells one…….its a war on terror 😕
even that big whopper about the wmd’s ?? you will be telling me saddam was a threat next….im confused 😕
this whole war on terror confuses me…..but its ok folks…..21 durkas have been arrested…..details are sketchy at the minute……but something has been mentioned about fizzy drinks bottles…..explosives…..and 9 planes coming being saved from exploding.
heres a thought ??
if there aim was really to cause terror and kill as many infidels as they could in one clean strike…….would’nt they be better off storming into one of the many congested airport terminals filled too the brim with thousands of holidaymakers clutching see through bags sponsored by the daily mail no less 😯
AND SETTING THE BOMB OFF THERE ??
why get on a plane durka durka ??
meanwhile i have just seen eurostars chief exec punting tickets for eurostar as they are not affected by todays events ?? haha….the war on terror takes a new turn……trains safe….planes bad.
fuck these bullshit lies i am seeing today…….have as many terrorist alerts as you wish…..i dont give a monkeys what colour alert i am meant to be on today….crimson….red…..high…..deep purple with yellow polka dots…..i could’nt give a fuck !!!
YOU AINT FOOLIN ME….AND YOU AINT CONVINCING ME THAT I AM IN DANGER FROM IRATE ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISTS
and this war on terror you speak of ??? you created it you fuckers !!!
sure i could be in the wrong place at the wrong time……so can everyone.
lebanon would be a good place to start !!!!
August 10, 2006 at 9:38 pm #31820LensmanParticipantso you are pulling apart one comment made up on the spot then ?? and disecting it ?? correct ??
Yep. This was to illustrate the point that Galloway’s “facts” are bullshit. I picked that one – I could have picked others.
yet fail to mention the too many to number bullshit lies we are told on a daily basis by our politicians ??
Irrelevent to my assertion that Galloway is a complete cock. Just because he is one does not make other politicians honest. They are just not as easy to catch out as this idiot.
let me get this straight…..if george tells a porkie its a conspiracy……if blair tells one…….its a war on terror 😕
I have no idea – did not mention this at all, afaik.
even that big whopper about the wmd’s ?? you will be telling me saddam was a threat next….im confused 😕
No argument. I always thought the WMD “45 minutes” was bullshit, even well before it was shown to be after the invasion (too late). Going into Iraq was a mistake. The one country Islamic extremism could not operate in the mid-East was Saddam’s Iraq. But the invasion changed that.
Afghanistan was not a mistake and can be justified as a direct link to 9/11, but shifting focus to Iraq meant that the Afghan mission lost its way. The consequences of that are severe, and now the UK forces are having to bear the brunt of that error.
if there aim was really to cause terror and kill as many infidels as they could in one clean strike…….would’nt they be better off storming into one of the many congested airport terminals filled too the brim with thousands of holidaymakers clutching see through bags sponsored by the daily mail no less 😯
AND SETTING THE BOMB OFF THERE ??Interesting thought, but misses the point that the thought of a bomb on a plane is much more terrifying to Joe Punter than one in a building. In a plane, I am trapped and will definitely die along with 300 others. In a building I have a good chance of surviving, I can run away, and help is probably at hand.
The point is not to just to kill people. It is to paralyse society by making people afraid to go about their normal lives. I.e. it takes away our freedom, and replaces it with fear.
August 10, 2006 at 9:42 pm #31821ajnabi121ParticipantNicely Said me friend Mr Sprog 8)
August 10, 2006 at 10:35 pm #31822XDC DutchmanParticipantOne small bomb on an airborne plane, plane goes down, 100+ dead, one small bomb in a crowded building might kill a dozen. Pretty obvious which one will kill most and cause most mayhem.
Now snakes on a plane, that’s a different matter alltogether !
August 11, 2006 at 12:00 am #31823TurksMeisterParticipant@=XDC= Dutchman wrote:
One small bomb on an airborne plane, plane goes down, 100+ dead, one small bomb in a crowded building might kill a dozen. Pretty obvious which one will kill most and cause most mayhem.
Now snakes on a plane, that’s a different matter alltogether !
One small bomb in the middle of a crowd at… say a festival… the stampede would kill fucking loads… If I was a terrorist, thats what I would do… Or nuke that Island fault that would cause landslide in to the sea causing a wave so high, it would knock out the east coast of the USA.
Lots of Love
Turksamabinladen!
August 11, 2006 at 12:41 am #31824ajnabi121Participant@Lensman wrote:
Israel isn’t some backwards country reliant on being given eveything. They have some of the most advanced high-tech companies in the world. While they do import some precision weapons, they also design and build their own.
They also pretty much pioneered remote battlefield drones, and the US were big customers of theirs until their own RPV programs got up and running.
I wasn’t saying Israel are a backward country, on the contrary they are the most advanced country in the region (with a lot of help from US and UK).
My point is they are using precision weaponary to target innocent children and don’t say that they are not – I don’t believe the political BULLSHIT. That is exactly what is happening. Instead of just watching the theEuropian/US news, try to watch the news story from the Arab side too that way you will get almost the full story, not just one sided. During times like these the news broadcasters are informed to refrain from broadcasting sensitive information……….
On the other hand, like George Galloway said:
“if some people consider Hizbolla as terrorist then also a lot of people consider Israel as a terrorist state”As far as I know (there must be others) Israel is the only state to sanction extermination of political people in other countries…….
WHAT SORT OF WORLD ARE WE LIVING IN???
Also if the US wanted Israel to stop its terrorist attacks I’m sure that they would but at the moment they are not bothered about the innocent children being slotered by the Israeli army.
Like I said earlier I condone Hizbulla killing the innocent people within Israel too but how can you justify murdering 30 times more innocent people and say we are only defnding ourselves??
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August 11, 2006 at 3:48 am #31825XDCsPUNKerParticipant@=XDC= Dutchman wrote:
One small bomb on an airborne plane, plane goes down, 100+ dead, one small bomb in a crowded building might kill a dozen. Pretty obvious which one will kill most and cause most mayhem.
And um…..Im sure a cany terrorist who’s spent ages concocting a special cocktail that in peices will pass through the airport security control so he can make a small bomb on a plane that may or may not go off and give the results they wanted would undoubtably (if he so felt like it) walk into a busy airport to a crowded checkin with 2 (or more) fuck off LARGE suitcases packed with explosives and cause as much mayhem as you can imagine. If the idea is to disrupt flights and daily lives then there you have it…an entire terminal out of action. Air traffic control chaos and increased security before you even set foot in an airport.
We asked 100 people which act of terror would cause the most overall devistation and fear…You said “bomb on a plane”
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😉August 11, 2006 at 8:28 am #31826WipersParticipantYup crazy. Almost as ludicrous and far-fetched as hi-jacking 4 planes and crashing them full of passengers into skyscrapers and buildings of major political importance. I mean, who would bother when you could just let rip at the check-in desk….
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August 11, 2006 at 12:23 pm #31827XDC DutchmanParticipantThanks Wipers, I think that kinda hits home the point
Kinda like the 7/7 bombers detonating whilst waiting on the platform instead of on the trainI strongly doubt though that you’re going to have 100 people crowded in a concentric circle around one person with 2 suitcases at the airport, even at busy Heathrow. You are going to have people standing in queues at seperate check-ins, these may snake around and have areas where about 15 people stand quite close together, perhaps maybe 30. but not really much more. Blowing up a bomb there is not going to definitely kill all 15 or 30 either, unless he has a small nuclear device or something similar, in which case it would be better to detonate this ala Sum of fears at a major sport attraction with 45000 people
August 11, 2006 at 1:40 pm #31828XDCsPUNKerParticipantOK 9/11 was symbolic for obvious reasons strike at the economic/political/military heart etc where the people trained to fly planes and of course, hijack them for their purposes. But making a hole in the side of a plane that may or may not work causing the “possibly defininte” deaths of all on board is only going to slightly increase the considerable airport baggage security we already have in place.
Now take that context to the next level and imagine sniffer dogs and baggage and guard checkpoints before you even enter the airport. strict rules for not carrying anything if you are going to pick someone up etc
thats the potential outcome of a strike at an airport terminal which would cause chaos inconvenience etc etc more than just another Lockerbie
for those that remember mid air plane blowing up aint nothing new. Also on another note. personally every time i’m in a plane I accept that there is a reasonable risk of potential fatal accident from take off to landing. I accept that risk and hope that I get a seat next to a pretty woman just in case.That same risk does not apply in the actual airport but of course then would if someone was to do as I’ve been suggesting.
Dont forget that larger groups could work that and place cases at strategic columns that support the terminal etc. they are only limited by the amount they can carry in the suitcases. The mentality isnt “kill the infidels” its “cause disruption” and if a few infidels die in the proccesss then so be it.
To re-iterate my point: which would cause the most disruption? an airplane falling out of the sky or a destroyed terminal building?
think about it 😉August 11, 2006 at 2:33 pm #31829WipersParticipant@=XDC=sPUNKer wrote:
To re-iterate my point: which would cause the most disruption? an airplane falling out of the sky or a destroyed terminal building?
think about it 😉Short term – probably a terminal building, long term – airplane. A mass bombing campaign of the type that has just been thwarted, we think, would have massive economic implications in terms of reduced air traffic – tourism etc in the months and years to come. Psychologically I think people are more likely to be put off flying if they think they are going to bombed in the air, rather than at the terminal building. Its assumed the security will not be as tight at the airport as on the plane and a bomb on a plane means you will almost certainly die a horrible, memorable death. We all remember plane bombings – eg Lockerbie 1989, but how many of us remember the airport bombings/shootings by Palestinian terrorists in Frankfurt, Rome and Vienna in 1985?
To be honest I think we are going to see an increase in security at all levels of air travel from now on anyway – similar to that at Israeli airports and the sort of security we had in N. Ireland – police checkpoints at entrance to airports, random car searches, bomb detectors, x-rays, body search & luguage search – and this was all before reaching the check-in desk.
August 11, 2006 at 4:03 pm #31830von smallhousenParticipantsry not got time to read all jour sexy opinions. 8)
George Galloway should be drowned in his own urine and have his own feaces stuffed into his mouth for his over opinionated self righteous way of … ok just for his scottish accent the man should be hung by his balls.
Do a couple of things before you form an opinion about Hammas, Israel. Read how they both came to be.
Isreal, read up on the Irgun the first Israelis who murdered 91 British at the end of the war, Britain so preoccupied with the mess in Europe in 46, does nothing, infact hands the terrorists all of palestine in ’48. The newly formed Isreal is pumped full of guns by america who is full of Jews and feels it owes all the jews something from the shit they went through between ’39-’46, it gives ‘billions’ to revive palestine, while america itself is hurt with the war debts… Israelis then plan to kill US embassy staff posing as Arabs from Lybia in ’56, they then attack the USS Liberty in broad daylight and blame it on the Egyptians, they bomb a German night club full of US servicemen in ’89 and blame it again on Libya, Regan retailiates with the bombing of Isreali chosen Libyan targets… Isreal then feeds the US miss information about Iraq, posing as Iraqi defectors, too late lads wars already started we can’t do shit about it now says Senior Bush.
The whole area is fucked and will always be until they get their pathetic second coming, someone convincing should walk in there and be like “sit, I r teh Jeebus, here is my 2nd leet”
would solve the whole thing …. momentary pause … ?
maybe the arabs will never be satisfied.
August 11, 2006 at 10:14 pm #31831XDCsPUNKerParticipant@von smallhousen wrote:
The whole area is fucked and will always be until they get their pathetic second coming, someone convincing should walk in there and be like “sit, I r teh Jeebus, here is my 2nd leet”
.LOL Vonny 😆
As for MR Wipers…..good points as always 😉
August 11, 2006 at 11:44 pm #31832WipersParticipant@=XDC=sPUNKer wrote:
@von smallhousen wrote:
The whole area is fucked and will always be until they get their pathetic second coming, someone convincing should walk in there and be like “sit, I r teh Jeebus, here is my 2nd leet”
.LOL Vonny 😆
As for MR Wipers…..good points as always 😉
You too m8 😀
Now how about that nice cup of tea….. milk and sugar?
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