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August 9, 2006 at 7:48 pm #31803TurksMeisterParticipant
Its amazingly one sided!
Check out whose mic is louder, and in a few of the points where he gets to speak they play sound from the video over him!!
“Would you mind letting me finish please”… err ok bint swings and roundabouts and all that!
August 9, 2006 at 10:39 pm #31804LensmanParticipantI agree with Wipers – the man is a complete and utter cock.
He went into the interview spoiling for sound bites. He immediately launched into a tirade about what a stupid question he was being asked. I’m sorry but that was just plain out of order and completely ruined any chance of the interview being any kind of reasoned debate. And that was a deliberate tactic, as Galloway knows that his “logic” and “facts” never stand up to reasoned debate and cross examination. The whole tone of that interview was set by him, not Sky, to divert attention from the nebulousness of his stance.
His “facts” are complete rubbish – opinion stated as fact and shouted the loudest does not make it true.
Likening Hezbollah to the French Resistance is stretching things way beyond the absurd. For example, the French resistance did not operate cross border rocket attacks and suicide bombings on civilian targets, and then rush back behind the border of another sovereign nation to hide. And he has the gall to say that Hezbollah is not a terrorist organisation – it is only painted thus by the media. Only a one eyed madman could think thus.
Here’s another rubbish statement from Galloway in the interview: “In most peoples eyes Israel is a terrorist state”. WTF? Really? Do you assume that any Israeli you meet is a terrorist? What the hell is a “terrorist state”? It’s just an utterly meaningless term.
I’m not apologising for Israel, and I don’t particularly support them in this most recent action. There may be elements of truth about the US diverting attention from Iraq and pointing more fingers at Iran. But you could argue it the opposite way too – Iran diverting attention from its interference in Iraq. That’s the thing with conspiracy theories – you can make them fit your opinion and never worry about proof.
There was an interesting article in one of the papers the other day on the PR war in Lebanon. It basically looked at a whole load of news reports and found some common patterns. Things like shots of a child’s shoe in the street near a crater – there was never two shoes, or three, or four. Strategically placed “Baby Milk Factory” signs – in English. Broken medicine boxes with a red cross on – never a red crescent as you would expect. How, in Iraq, coalition air strijes that go astray always manage to hit a “wedding party”
The fact is that both sides manipulate the media.
While Galloway’s final point about the relative value of human life was a powerful one and not completely without merit, it also ignored the fact that the value people like Hezbollah place on human life is infinitesimal. They know the consequences of where they base their operations from, place their ammo dumps etc, will result in civilian casualties, but they persist.
Fuck me, this is getting serious. I’ll back away from the keyboard now….
August 9, 2006 at 11:05 pm #31805XDCSprogParticipantAnd then he claims that the US has given “hundreds of long range nuclear missiles” to Israel – complete and utter cock.
where they gettin all the good weapons from then ?? israel that is ?? who is supplying them with these laser guided missiles….fired from jet planes ??
sorry you were saying something about complete and utter something or other ??
And he has the gall to say that Hezbollah is not a terrorist organisation – it is only painted thus by the media. Only a one eyed madman could think thus.
sschnoogle noodle schnoogle flumps….shiver me timber deckin double buses……OWWWWW i just banged me fuggin head on a broomstick…..schnoogle doogle i hate having one eye !!!!
depends on what way you look at it ?? with my clearly deranged one eye….i see bush as the terrorist……with israel a continuation of his half arsed attempt at solving this alleged ‘war on terror’
check the death tolls……then please do continue to try to enlighten me as too who are the terrorists ??
see how the line in the sand becomes blurry ??
its a fuckin cricket score in favour of the west……its england pakistan in the cricket all over again……bowled out before tea.
england vs luxembourg 20 years ago in football……its a walkover.
west – 20 sand niggahs – 0 ???
WHO EXACTLY IS CAUSING THE MOST TERROR HERE ???
BUSH CAN SUCK MY FAT ONE !!!
GET IN THERE GEORGE…..GOOD SHOUT YA LEFTIE NUTTA IN A LEOTARD !!! 🙂
The fact is that both sides manipulate the media.
once all the conspiracy theories are gone we are left with death totals for both sides……this is where the truth of the matter lays.
August 10, 2006 at 7:39 am #31806TurksMeisterParticipantArgument clinic anyone?!
The whole thing has an air of Black Hawk Down
“Shit, a couple of our lads have been taken, lets go get em back… and get another few score of us killed whilst we are at it!”
August 10, 2006 at 7:41 am #31807XDCOldPhartParticipantFuck me but most of you have a piss poor grasp of the whole situation. Stop taking sides based on whether Bush pisses you off, or towel-heads annoy you or whatever.
Try putting you default mindsets away and take a holistic view.
Fark
August 10, 2006 at 8:23 am #31808WipersParticipant@TurksMeister wrote:
Argument clinic anyone?!
Good idea! Politics and religion – straight to the argument clinic – do not pass GO…
August 10, 2006 at 9:15 am #31809XDC wild egg tamerParticipantThe masons have the right idea.never discuss politics and religion 😉
Tea anyone ?
August 10, 2006 at 9:53 am #31810XDCsPUNKerParticipant
a hot potatoe is born 😈August 10, 2006 at 9:56 am #31811XDCsPUNKerParticipant@=XDC= wild egg tamer wrote:
The masons have the right idea.never discuss politics and religion 😉
LOL the masons ranks are full to brimming with politicians and religious men. No wonder they dont want to talk about those subjects! they are all probably quite happy not having a bussmans holiday when they get together and talk about the real subject that interests them…..money 😉
August 10, 2006 at 9:57 am #31812XDC wild egg tamerParticipantpmsl
August 10, 2006 at 10:03 am #31813XDCOldPhartParticipantI have started an argy in the argy bargy forum.
Fight meh!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😈
August 10, 2006 at 10:25 am #31814XDCsPUNKerParticipantAnd we shall have peace in the galaxy
😉August 10, 2006 at 11:02 am #31815XDCOldPhartParticipantCome over to the dark side, you can have yer Big Mac and eat it !!!
August 10, 2006 at 12:52 pm #31816LensmanParticipantwhere they gettin all the good weapons from then ?? israel that is ?? who is supplying them with these laser guided missiles….fired from jet planes ??
Read what I actually wrote, and listen to what Galloway actually *said*. Which was that the US had supplied Israel with hundreds of long range nuclear missiles capable of reaching all Arab and Muslim cities. I’m pretty sure that if they had been firing those bastards around then it would have made the news.
His comment was in reply to the interviewer asking about his views on Iran supplying long range missiles to Hezbollah. Of course rather than answer that he just rants on about nuclear missiles, which is something he just made up on the spot.
I’m not disputing that the US supplies Israel with arms – of course they do. I was pointing out that Galloway’s “facts” are complete cock.
The fact that he talks crap does not therefore mean that Israel is right in its actions, and that civilian deaths do not count etc etc. That’s a separate argument I’m willing to have.
August 10, 2006 at 3:57 pm #31817ajnabi121ParticipantAcutally…
I agree with Galloway. At least he has the GUTS to speak out for what he believes is right, which is more than what I can say for the rest of the british politicians (I HATE POLITICS ).Come-on, WHAT ARE ISRAEL doing on Lebenies land in the first place, if they were not there then there would be no need for the Hezbulla to to exhist!!!!!
I don’t support them firing on the innocent people in Israel but what are Israel doing with PRECISION GUIDED MISSILES??? Airn’t they targeting innocent people too?? (Oh yeh, we are targeting Hezbulla members – BULL SHIT) and why target the rest of Lebonan???
There is an old saying – Truth is a three edged sword:
Israeli side,
the Hezbulla side
and the truthWHO ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE?????
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