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  • #33877
    TurksMeister
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    Airlines should…

    Just send everyone to sleep, and search all those who dont want to be… This can be paid for with the extra revenue made from stacking up the passengers – and fitting more in!

    Job done

    NEXT!!

    #33878
    XDC wild egg tamer
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    Muslims: bad
    White people: good

    Who says muslims have to be of Asian appearance ? There are very many white muslims, just take a drive past any mosque at the right time and see for yourself……..

    Its a fucked up World what ever way you look at it!

    8)

    #33879
    XDC MadHippy
    Participant

    @Alzir wrote:

    While that’s a fair enough point Turks, it’s only an idiot who would interpret it that way and idiots will always find ways to hate minority groups regardless of emails.

    What makes my bloody boil is 17-40 year old Muslims who think them being searched is discrimination. Would a white hippy, who is arriving in the UK from Amsterdam be a reasonable candidate for a drugs search? I’m pretty sure people get pissed off at that, but does political correctness inhibit a search there?

    Basically if you take away security’s ability to think for themselves and make searches truely random, you’re just being stupid. That the threat comes from a visibly distinct group is actually a good thing for everyone, and should at the very least be grounds for extra searches on that group. Anyone within that group who gets on their high horse about it is just an oversensitive dickhead with no common sense…..or, of course, they have 10lbs of semtex in their hand luggage.

    I know you know this but the email just highlights the stupidity of political correctness. The source of the problem you mentioned is not the email, it’s just idiots in the general public.

    I do respect the right of people to question the intent of this email, but I feel it’s unfairly targetted as being inflammatory 😉

    Well said that man!!

    #33880
    XDCsPUNKer
    Participant

    @=XDC= MadHippy wrote:

    @Alzir wrote:

    While that’s a fair enough point Turks, it’s only an idiot who would interpret it that way and idiots will always find ways to hate minority groups regardless of emails.

    What makes my bloody boil is 17-40 year old Muslims who think them being searched is discrimination. Would a white hippy, who is arriving in the UK from Amsterdam be a reasonable candidate for a drugs search? I’m pretty sure people get pissed off at that, but does political correctness inhibit a search there?

    Basically if you take away security’s ability to think for themselves and make searches truely random, you’re just being stupid. That the threat comes from a visibly distinct group is actually a good thing for everyone, and should at the very least be grounds for extra searches on that group. Anyone within that group who gets on their high horse about it is just an oversensitive dickhead with no common sense…..or, of course, they have 10lbs of semtex in their hand luggage.

    I know you know this but the email just highlights the stupidity of political correctness. The source of the problem you mentioned is not the email, it’s just idiots in the general public.

    I do respect the right of people to question the intent of this email, but I feel it’s unfairly targetted as being inflammatory 😉

    Well said that man!!

    ditto

    Turks As much as I respect some of what you are saying you are carrying as much passion about it as one of them Extremeists aged between 17 and 40 😉

    #33881
    XDCNeonSamurai
    Participant

    Firstly: Great thread Hippy. I likes something I can get my teeth into (mmmm… Kirsty Allsop). Anyway, before I pop off to the toilet:

    @TurksMeister wrote:

    But the same has happend in society with black males, and the police (err not the band!)… whilst I admit that a siginificant preportion of crimes are commiteed by young black males, the over seraching of innocent people has led to an anti police culture, which doesnt solve anything.

    Actually Turks, look at the crime rate in London before and after police were stopped from searching individuals based on racial profiling. In fact back in the 70’s metropolitan police would search people with Irish accents because they might be IRA. You didn’t need to be Irish to support or serve the IRA (they had plenty of supporters state’s side and in the UK) but it made sense to start with them.

    Just after september 11th a young muslim was taken off a plane for terroris reasons… I can’t remember how old he was, but I believe it was under 5… and then the extremely fundermentalist muslim Yusuf Islam was searched for the same reason… or for singing “father and son” to loud…

    In 1955 Groucho Marx said “Honey, did you remember to pack the cocaine?” at airport customs. Customs officials strip searched his whole family, since they were unfortunately guilty by association. There’s nothing in the terrorist’s/drug trafficer’s handbook that says you can make kids carry bombs or crack.

    I think it is a very delicate subject, and only/predominatly searching people of a certain appearence has been proven in the past to be highly unporoductive, and alternative methods have to be thought up. Besides who said “80-year-oldwomen, people in wheelchairs, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification,Secret Service agents who are members of the U.S.President’s security detail, 85-year old World WarII veterans with metal hips, and Boy Scout groups” cant be Muslims? Errr I rest my case!!

    http://www.scouting.org/factsheets/02-928.html

    Being stopped and searched isn’t fun. It can be humiliating and embarrassing and police can abuse their powers when doing so. However, don’t be swayed by people’s victim mentality, especially when so many of these stop and search ‘victims’ supported the tube bombings in this country. If they disagree with the terrorists so much, then why aren’t they making their voices heard in protests about it? They were happy to protest about dodgy cartoons, but when it comes to mass murdering suicide bombers it all goes a bit quiet.

    They need to be getting the public on their side, not alienating us.

    #33882
    VicJameson
    Participant

    I didn’t protest about the tube bombings, does that make me a sympathiser? In fact, given the current state of mind that says ‘it’s okay to treat asian people like shit cos they might be muslim’ gives me the same uneasy feeling as when people thought it was ok to treat Irish people like shit becasue they might have been in the IRA.

    #33883
    XDCFluffyBunny
    Participant

    It seems to be Muslims (looking at the most recent events and that moron with the hook spewing out illiterit rhetoric) who are generally blowing people up at the moment so why not search them? When football hooliganism is prevelent (all the time but it dosn’t sell newspapers at the moment so we don’t hear about it as much) search the big bald twat trailing his knuckles on the floor chanting rascist slogans. It just seems common sense rather than racial or any other prejudice.

    If some 6ft tall slim white person had run riot and shot loads of people could I refuse to be searched on the grounds of prejudice? Or would I accept the fact that I’m a similar profile to the nutter they’re looking for and therefore fair game to be searched?

    It can only be prejudice if the law is used in a prejudice way and for that you just have to trust the police…..which is where it all falls a part a bit…but they are all we have…unless you wish to rely on the American wrold wide policing policy!!

    #33884
    VicJameson
    Participant

    Again, this confusion of muslim and asian is what will casue the trouble. When the police pull all the Sikhs in because they have brown skin and might be terrorists we are already on the slippery slope. Do any of you trust the police to actually get things right?

    #33885
    XDC_Wolf
    Participant

    I hate everybody equally.

    #33886
    XDCNeonSamurai
    Participant

    @VicJameson wrote:

    I didn’t protest about the tube bombings, does that make me a sympathiser? In fact, given the current state of mind that says ‘it’s okay to treat asian people like shit cos they might be muslim’ gives me the same uneasy feeling as when people thought it was ok to treat Irish people like shit becasue they might have been in the IRA.

    Unless you represent the Muslim community then your lack of protest makes no odds as you are not the one who is under scrutiny.

    The arument here isn’t about the ‘right’ to treat people like shit, but to stop bombs going off on trains and buses. If we listen to their compaints and do stop the searches it’ll make it easier for the terrorists.

    Again, this confusion of muslim and asian is what will casue the trouble. When the police pull all the Sikhs in because they have brown skin and might be terrorists we are already on the slippery slope. Do any of you trust the police to actually get things right?

    They have been stopping Sikhs on the tube. One of my mates at the gym has been stopped about a dozen times now, but he’s okay with it. He said he didn’t mind being searched because he didn’t want to be blown up either. Incidentally, asks Sikhs and Hindus about their experiences of the Muslim faith.

    Bah! Sorry Vic, I’m in debate mode. I just like a nice argument to get the old grey matter going and I’m enjoying this as it’s cleaning out the cobwebs. I should really take up chess instead 😉

    I hate everybody equally.

    I hate everybody too, but I hate you slightly less…

    #33887
    sickofitall
    Participant

    Back when I was a lad my mate was walking home one day when this police van pulled up and this rozzer set this big fuck off alsation on him. Halfway through his ordeal it turns out that the criminal they were after was elsewhere and my mate just looked like him. So the pow-lice (fuck the pow-lice and all that) jumped back in their van and left my mate laid on the floor a bit chewed up and needing some new underwear.

    Now obviously, you can read into this all you like about the pitfalls of mistaken identity and profiling and all that bollocks but the important thing is that it really was piss funny (not for my mate of course, but the rest of us thought it was hilarious).

    #33888
    XDCMADMAX
    Participant

    Happened to me too, police pulled me over thought i was some criminal, case of mistaken idenity and luckily no dogs either.

    #33889
    TurksMeister
    Participant

    @=XDC= wild egg tamer wrote:

    Muslims: bad
    White people: good

    Who says muslims have to be of Asian appearance ? There are very many white muslims, just take a drive past any mosque at the right time and see for yourself……..

    Its a fucked up World what ever way you look at it!

    8)

    If you read on, I did go on to say

    Besides who said “80-year-oldwomen, people in wheelchairs, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification,Secret Service agents who are members of the U.S.President’s security detail, 85-year old World WarII veterans with metal hips, and Boy Scout groups” cant be Muslims? Errr I rest my case!!

    I was a little drunk when I wrote it, so probably could have been clearer I was just putting it in simple simple terms… One of my mates recently came out with “The majority of non-whites drain the state”… I didnt speak to him for a week!

    #33890
    TurksMeister
    Participant

    @=XDC=sPUNKer wrote:

    Turks As much as I respect some of what you are saying you are carrying as much passion about it as one of them Extremeists aged between 17 and 40 😉

    I am just a passionate person – you should see me in bed…

    Check me out in “Turks’s Throbbing Tart-fest!”

    A serious answer will come soon!

    #33891
    XDCSprog
    Participant

    I didnt speak to him for a week!

    he was made up that week i bet

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